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Old November 4th, 2016   #11
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Thanks Paul, I may go to the local honda dealer here to see if they will honor this bulletin, not sure if same conditions may apply here in Mexico, the mechanic cleaned and fixed the connection the best possible way, but kept same pieces in.
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Old November 5th, 2016   #12
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Does your 2003 model VIN fall within the VIN range listed in the AFFECTED UNITS section of the recall?

If I'm not mistaken this recall was also in effect in Europe and I would assume world wide.
It would certainly be worth an inquiry with a local Honda Dealer.
The dealer can run your VIN number and it will tell them if any recalls exist and if they were ever corrected or not.
Original ownership of an affected unit is not required on Safety Recalls.
There is no expiration date on Safety Recalls that I am aware of.

If there was found to be damage to the ground connector cap the entire wiring harness was replaced.
Yours certainly shows signs of damage.

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Old November 6th, 2016   #13
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It was definitely a recall in the UK. Honda wrote to me and asked me to take the bike to my local dealer. Mine was a 2003 bike that I bought in October 2005 so the recall was notified to me sometime after that date. After the work was done a punch mark was made on the steering head next to the Frame Number so that any future owners could see that the recall work had taken place. But any other Honda service centres servicing the bike could also check Honda UK records to confirm this.
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Old November 6th, 2016   #14
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Thanks Paul, I may go to the local honda dealer here to see if they will honor this bulletin, not sure if same conditions may apply here in Mexico, the mechanic cleaned and fixed the connection the best possible way, but kept same pieces in.
Get this recall done by Dealer or do it Youself ASAP. . . that ground cap has to be change and replace with the new type of cap coming with the recall kit .

Keeping this old ground cap is not a good thing . . . further damage will occur on the wire harness to a point that a complete replacement will be the only option .

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In the U.S. you do not have the Do It Yourself option, I be surprised to hear of anyplace that allows recall work to be done by the owner.
This is top of the food-chain federal stuff.

In this case, and every recall I've ever done the paper work on, keeping the original part is not an option either.
Particularly in this case because there was damage to the ground cap the harness will be replaced and that takes approval from Honda before proceeding.
Because of the approval requirement this recall will move up a level and Honda will send in the out-of-town-pros.
The District Rep. will be the first to land on their beach and if he concurs that damage has been done they may call in the rest of the OoTP's.
These parts will be shipped to Mom's in Japan for dissection and inspection by the chief cheese in engineering.
In Japan you have the very real possibility the heads will roll.
They take recalls very seriously.

I think you will find that you can not order the "Recall Kit".
This is a dealer only order.
The wiring harness might just be hand delivered by the district rep.


Over the years as service manager I went through a few recalls.
The paperwork dwarfs the mechanical work.

Ask your local Yamaha dealer how the R1 recall is stacking up compared to your everyday recall.
I'll bet his first response will be paperwork nightmare.


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Old November 8th, 2016   #16
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Hi Paul,

I checked my VIN number which is JH2SC51583M100469, but I do not think it's listed on the recall, I will go with the dealer just to make sure. Do you guys know if the recall still applies if I had the same sympthons but my serial number was not accounted for..??
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Hi Paul,

I checked my VIN number which is JH2SC51583M100469, but I do not think it's listed on the recall, I will go with the dealer just to make sure. Do you guys know if the recall still applies if I had the same sympthons but my serial number was not accounted for..??
The VIN's in the recall are for U.S. models.
I would assume foreign models would be different simply because they are required to meet the regulations for the country of destination.

I would think Honda would be real interested in any year model that showed signs of heat damage, the very item that kicked off the recall, of any year model with any VIN Number.

I definitely would have a Honda Dealer look at the damaged cap and connector and run the VIN through their system.

Damage described in the recall showing up on a model not in the VIN range in the U.S. would most certainly get the Out-of-Town-Pro's in town for a look see.
The OoTP's have the authority to warranty anything they don't like.
They don't like damage.


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Hi Paul,

I checked my VIN number which is JH2SC51583M100469, but I do not think it's listed on the recall, I will go with the dealer just to make sure. Do you guys know if the recall still applies if I had the same sympthons but my serial number was not accounted for..??
Check your VIN again ,You might have a mistaque in it ,because over there . . . http://powersports.honda.com/recalls...Xzt5jAt5g4q.97 it said that your VIN is invalid

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It may have said invalid because it is not a US VIN.
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This one shows it.

https://secure.carfax.com/creditCard...SC51583M100469
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