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Old August 31st, 2016   #1
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Forgive me if this is old news but I just ran across this story of a cop who pepper sprayed a group of passing motorcyclists because they wouldn't move over into an adjacent lane while he was was pulled over. I think that the law for this situation states that if a motorist can't switch lanes, to instead slow down a certain # of mph as they pass the officer. The picture of the incident makes it look like all lanes were full so they couldn't have pulled over. This idiot could have caused these guys to crash and be to be seriously hurt.

I'm not so sure this guy has the common sense and judgement to be a policeman.

The sad thing for me is that this is my home town!

Here's the article:
http://www.motorcycle.com/features/p...op-update.html

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The Texas law: "Move Over Act" (Sec. 545.157 of the Texas Transportation Code)
Is slow down 20mph below the posted speed limit.
Expensive ticket.
California has one and it is growing.

If my job was involved being "on the shoulder of the road" 20mph reduction would not be enough.

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Press all over the world post news to make you buy their product.
I always view stuff like this with a pinch of salt.
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From the photo the Cop is using the wrong type spray as far as delivery.
There are two types of delivery system for spray, stream-gives some distance and fog-up close with full face coverage.

If you have ever used pepper stray you will find even the slightest breeze will blow the fog away, usually right back at you.
This guy did not get anywhere near his intended target.

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From the photo the Cop is using the wrong type spray as far as delivery.
There are two types of delivery system for spray, stream-gives some distance and fog-up close with full face coverage.

If you have ever used pepper stray you will find even the slightest breeze will blow the fog away, usually right back at you.
This guy did not get anywhere near his intended target.

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You may be right but what's important here is the intent.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
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I think the intent was clear. Stop at all cost.
He acted without thought of the consequence of temperately incapacitating a motorcycle rider (multiple riders) and the carnage that had a very real possibility of incurring by that action.

I'd like to see what we did not see and that is what happened next.
If they were stopped?
By who and their demeanor?

I worked with/for the police department for a decade.
I was told early on to exercise some caution in dealing with a small percentage of the motor officers.
The reasoning for the caution was stated as: If they weren't cops we'd be chasing them.
It turned out to be solid warning for about 10% of those I work with/for.
A small percentage when looked at by the general population.
The problem becomes we give this small percentage the power of enforcement of our law.
The alarming part becomes when this small percentage take on the roll of Judge, Jury, and Executioner.

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You may be right but what's important here is the intent.
I agree, but what exactly is the intent of whom. It may have been deodorant for all we know.
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I remember reading about this when it happened, and Mick listed his intent pretty well. He was mad they didn't move over (which isn't required if you slow down). On top of that, a bike can really move over and stay in the same lane, and from the pic, most - if not all - of them did. I can also agree with Paul, 20 might not be enough, but that's what the law says, so that's what's required.

In my experience, traffic just about comes to a dead stop for any cop on the road, whether moving or not. They are their own rolling road-block. All those passing by just want to see if it's anyone they know, or if there's any gore to stare at.

Apparently there were no penalties for him to threaten all those bikes. And, what about the pickup right behind them? Sis he get pissed off enough to spray the truck, too?? I think there's more to the story we'll never know, and there will never be any reprisals for him.
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In my job I never had to worry about anyone killing me. That comes with a cops job.

So I'm not surprised they get a little frisky from time to time.

And close ranks to protect their own when they step over the line.

Which this cop did no doubt about it! Pretty lucky no one got hurt or killed!

I wonder how the pic of the cop spraying the tear gas was taken?
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