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Old May 20th, 2016   #1
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Hello from North Carolina.
I have an 08 St1300, less than 25k miles on her. I did not buy it new, but it's in great shape.
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Old May 21st, 2016   #2
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Welcome, from Maryland.

I ride an '04, bought two years ago. Fabulous machines, aren't they?
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Old May 21st, 2016   #3
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Welcome to the forum.
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Welcome to the forum, from another old guy.
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Welcome. Yeah, there's a FEW of us old guys here.
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Old May 23rd, 2016   #6
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Well, this old guy wants to find out about the "Pan Weave' causes and how to prevent it.
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Old May 23rd, 2016   #7
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The Pan weave is what almost made me not buy a St. I have a 2012 ST and love it . I have been in triple digits with top case and loaded. No sign of instability. Unless your ride like a fool and ride pass any safe speed do not worry about the weave. Any bike rode to fast and not loader properly can have stability problems. Keep heavy stuff out of top box and loaded in dry bag or back pack on rear seat. Over loading any bike on top rack will make the tail wag the dog instead of dog wagging the tail. Ride and enjoy.
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A few things, can and should be considered, basic.

Ensure your fork tubes are at the same height at the top clamp on both sides.
This will cause both a wander and a weave.

Proper suspension setup.
Sag height on both ends.

42/42 lbs in the tires.

There is a very specific sequence for torquing the front wheel.
Follow it to the letter.
Search for front wheel torque sequence 2008 model.
It is used on all year models.

Some do it some don't.
On those that do it seems to happen at hyper speeds, triple digit, somewhere around 120mph.


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I've hit 135. No weave. Rock steady - the bike, not me. As the road approaches you at those speeds things get really our of perspective. You can't react fast enough if anything bad happens. It's fine if you're on a known road (read: track) and you know the road is safe for those speeds. If not, it can be very difficult to maintain control over any irregularities in the roadway, and that doesn't even get into "dirty air". Those air waves produced by other vehicles on the road.

Keep it under a ton, and there's nothing to worry about - even with a _not properly_ installed front wheel.

Found it. Paul's post:

1. Torque the left axle bolt to 16 ft.lbs.
2. Torque the axle bolt to 58 ft.lbs.
3. Torque the right axle pinch bolt to 16 ft.lbs.
4. Loosen the left axle pinch bolts.
5. Lock the front brake and push the suspension up/down several times.
7. Torque the left axle pinch bolts to 16 ft. lbs.

I think #1 should be left axle pinch bolt.
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I've hit 135. No weave. Rock steady - the bike, not me. As the road approaches you at those speeds things get really our of perspective. You can't react fast enough if anything bad happens. It's fine if you're on a known road (read: track) and you know the road is safe for those speeds. If not, it can be very difficult to maintain control over any irregularities in the roadway, and that doesn't even get into "dirty air". Those air waves produced by other vehicles on the road.

Keep it under a ton, and there's nothing to worry about - even with a _not properly_ installed front wheel.

Found it. Paul's post:

1. Torque the left axle bolt to 16 ft.lbs.
2. Torque the axle bolt to 58 ft.lbs.
3. Torque the right axle pinch bolt to 16 ft.lbs.
4. Loosen the left axle pinch bolts.
5. Lock the front brake and push the suspension up/down several times.
7. Torque the left axle pinch bolts to 16 ft. lbs.

I think #1 should be left axle pinch bolt.
Yes, I think I noted that on the original post.
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