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Hello all, I changed final drive oil and the gears look shiny. Should I apply moly grease? I found valvoline moly fortified MP grease at the zone and it is NLGI certified.

How should I apply to gear?

Brush it on through the fill hole?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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The ST's final drive has never been a issue.
There is gear-to-gear contact in any and all ring and pinion drives and you actually check the contact pattern if you ever have the gear set removed.
There are drawings of the contact pattern in the shop manual, on or about page 14-13 Gear Tooth Contact Pattern Check.

No Molly is needed nor should it be used in the final drive assembly.
Honda spec is 80w, difficult to straight weight. 80w-90 works fine.
Amsoil Synthetic 80w-90 has never let me down on anything I have used it in, which is everything I ride.
I change gear oil every other oil change, 10,000 miles.
Overkill but it's inexpensive.

Take note of one thing.
If you ever remove the final drive, say to service the drive shaft, be sure you keep the pinion end elevated. To some degree Honda uses to the 89/90 to lubricate the pinion joint/drive shaft mating splines.
If you do not elevate you will discover a ever expanding 90w oil slick on the garage floor.
Moly is used here, very little 2grams.

The movement of the 80/90 will darken with it's contact of the moly and I use that darkening, or more accurately it's lightening up, as signal that it is time to service the drive shaft. When I start seeing a lighter color drive lube draining I pull the case and lube the shaft, both ends.
Moly on the Output/U-Joint end 1gram.


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Thanks Paul.

I actually pulled the final drive and could not get the drive shaft out of the rear hub. I removed the retaining bolt and plate, but after some gentle pulling it would not separate it. So, I put it all back together.
Still confused.....
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The drive shaft is held in by the Stopper Ring basically a "C" ring.
No tools are required.
Gently turn the drive shaft while pulling on the shaft.
The stopper ring will remain on the drive shaft.
I find it a lot easier to elevate the the drive case to a comfortable height for you to put your feet on the studs and pull the shaft with a slight rocking and turning motion.
Run the clip through your fingers with a dab of grease when reinstalling.

Anti-Seize those mounting bolts to prevent corrosion, why Honda did not put cap nuts on them I have no idea.



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Thanks Paul. Will give it a go this weekend.

I feel like a fool...Lost the left side bag yesterday going to work. Guess I forgot to lock the latch when I remove the seat the other day. I don't remember it leaving me, but I just hope it didn't hurt anyone as it bounced down the beltway at 80 mph (I assume that is where it decide to take a powder). Any suggestion on where to get a replacement left hard bag in black?
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Default Re: Final Drive

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Thanks Paul. Will give it a go this weekend.

I feel like a fool...Lost the left side bag yesterday going to work. Guess I forgot to lock the latch when I remove the seat the other day. I don't remember it leaving me, but I just hope it didn't hurt anyone as it bounced down the beltway at 80 mph (I assume that is where it decide to take a powder). Any suggestion on where to get a replacement left hard bag in black?
Ebay perhaps otherwise one of the on-line parts discounters such as Partzilla.com. You will find loosing a bag is an expensive mistake. Have you re-traced your route to see if you can find it? If the inside half is still functional, replacing just the lid is a lot less costly.
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Thanks, but I found pieces of it this afternoon on the ride home.
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Back to the gear oil issue. A Goldwing mechanic that works in a large dealer recommended that the gear lube is changed every other oil change. Not much lube there, should not cost much
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I change my final drive oil every oil change, cheap insurance.
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Default Re: Final Drive

There are a couple old adages to remember:

1) Oil is cheap, engines are expensive.
- This also applies to transmissions, differentials, power steering systems, transfer cases...you get the idea.

2) Those who spend the least on maintenance, spend the most on repairs.
- Normally, you can consider this an extension of the oil adage above.

Change it, press on. No biggie. Very small amount of oil back there, anyway.

just be sure to use the correct oil, in every circumstance.
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