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Old May 5th, 2010   #1
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Default Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

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I recently experienced a serious valve stem failure while using the TireGuard pressure monitors which screw onto the valve stem of the wheel.

I was doing 80mph at the end of a 400mi ride when the rubber, near the base of the valve stem threads, separated and caused a sudden loss of pressure on the front tire. No fun. The TireGuard monitors were on my tire for a total of 1600mi when my failure occurred. It is my opinion that the added weight of these sensors contributed to the failure.
Nowhere on the box did it say that "metal valve stems are required". In fact, the literature says it can be used on all valve stems.
IF anyone is considering using this product, IMHO, you MUST replace the valve stems with all metal ones!
Now this begs the question, does anyone know of a metal valve stem that can be used on the ST 1300 wheels? Has anyone else had a similar experience using this product.
Your collective opinions and comments are most welcome.
Thanks much
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Old May 5th, 2010   #2
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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

Yes, the Ariete and other stems that are made by the same company.
Many of us have them installed and they are 90 degrees, which helps to inflate easier.
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Old May 5th, 2010   #3
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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

I use Kisan's Tire Alert product for that very reason. Their system replaces the stock valve stem with all metal ones and they are very robust.

I put over 80,000 miles on a set on my ST1100 and am running their newer models on my ST1300.
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Old May 6th, 2010   #4
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Now this begs the question, does anyone know of a metal valve stem that can be used on the ST 1300 wheels?
I use these on my ST . . .they are short and straigth one .


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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

I have a pair of TireGuard monitors and have worried about valve stem failure, as both front and rear valve stems began angling rearward after about 1000 miles. The dang system failed before my valve stems did, so I just took them off. Probably best scenario, overall.
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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

I use the TireGard system as well, but I run metal valve stems. Except for the time that a well meaning dealer replaced an Ariete with a "new" rubber one, which lasted about 4000 miles before it snapped off. Luckily, I was able to get a metal stem that fit from a Firestone dealer on a Sunday morning...
I change my own tires now. :-)

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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

Are they necessary? There's not many about in the UK, that's why I ask, are they not just a gizmo that can also be the weakest link, It seems fairly likely that something that spins round one of the wheels may be prone to failure. I never had a flat front tyre but all the punctured rears have been fairly obvious to spot when riding, even at high speed on motorways.
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Ah another example of "safety" technology almost killing somebody!

Yes sometimes people have to (almost) die so the rest of us can live.

Unless its you that almost dies....then you begin to wonder.
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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

"Are they necessary?" I think that depends on the type of riding you do. For most people who generally make short trips and check tire pressures regularly, maybe not. I use a TPMS system because my ST is exclusively used for long distance riding and rallying. It is not uncommon for me to ride 1000 miles a day for several days in a row, and typically at least 350 miles without a stop. I want to make sure that my tires are properly inflated at all times. A TPMS system allows me to monitor the pressures and temperatures while underway, and should I experience a slow leak, I won't be riding for potentially hundreds of miles on an underinflated tire, causing premature wear and potentially ending my rally or certificate ride. Another advantage for my purposes, is that I don't have to take the time to manually check my pressures each day.
I agree that TPMS is basically useless for situations like a sudden blowout or valve stem failure, because the rider will be well aware of the problem at the same instant the TPMS is! :-)

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Default Re: Warning..Serious tire failure using Tire Guard pressure monitor

Long Distance Endurance riding was why I installed mine for much the same reasons as Garry sites below.

However, I did some research and went with the best product at the time - which was Kisan Technologies' TireAlert. They had stood some rigorous testing.

The units that the OP is talking about are on the other end of the spectrum - the cheapest out there.

You get what you pay for.

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"Are they necessary?" I think that depends on the type of riding you do. For most people who generally make short trips and check tire pressures regularly, maybe not. I use a TPMS system because my ST is exclusively used for long distance riding and rallying. It is not uncommon for me to ride 1000 miles a day for several days in a row, and typically at least 350 miles without a stop. I want to make sure that my tires are properly inflated at all times. A TPMS system allows me to monitor the pressures and temperatures while underway, and should I experience a slow leak, I won't be riding for potentially hundreds of miles on an underinflated tire, causing premature wear and potentially ending my rally or certificate ride. Another advantage for my purposes, is that I don't have to take the time to manually check my pressures each day.
I agree that TPMS is basically useless for situations like a sudden blowout or valve stem failure, because the rider will be well aware of the problem at the same instant the TPMS is! :-)

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