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Old November 7th, 2012   #21
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Yep, I think that is a good thing to do also.

I try to include multiple solutions: aux lights, colorful gear, retro-reflective lighting, practice my skills, stay away from heavy traffic, minimize my night riding, etc.

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Ist all in how you look at it, I guess.

Do loud lights save lives?

Darwin will sort everything out!

My solution is as much as possible not to ride where other motorists are. I figure the less of them the better my odds.
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Old November 7th, 2012   #22
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Yep, I always looked for the range between 4500 - 5500 to try to get my HIDs as "white" as possible.

I believe that my current set is at 4500K but, I wouldn't swear to it. It's been quite a few years since I got them.

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2800 Kelvin is the color of your typical household light.

3200 Kelvin is the color of your typical photo-flood light (think 300W shop light).

5500 Kelvin is the approximate color of sunlight, and is considered white.

7000 Kelvin is the has moved well away from white light to blue light.

9500 Kelvin is the color of the star Vega, extremely blue.

3800- to 4800 Kelvin is a common florescent phosphor mix range for shop lights and some OEM HID lights. But incandescent, phosphor based lights and discharge type lights can be difficult to compare.


The human eye is good at seeing greens and yellows, and pretty bad at seeing blues. Blue tint lamps reduce your ability to see at night two ways: 1) your eyes are not as sensitive to it; 2) it also kills your night vision by consuming the visual purple your eyes produce at night (there's a reason people use red light in dark areas).

Needless to say, many factors have gone into choosing a headlight color. Safety is high on the list. But like loud pipes, you still see idiots putting blue tinged lights on their vehicles. And they go cheap and buy the $80 knockoffs that at best are intended only for off-road high-beams and blind everyone with glare.

What's too funny for me, is that they pay extra for lumens then shine that extra light at the stars (anywhere but at the road they should really want to illuminate).
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At 4500K, I'd expect them to be slightly blue compared to cars around you. Much better than the 5500K lamps, and so superior to the 7500K you see on some of the bumper grinders running around here. Those 7500k lamps are like looking at UV lasers; can't see anything when you're approaching them so I actually avert my vision and look the other way.
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I am all for as much additional lighting as works.

But I also recognize that just because they can see you, does not mean they give a crap whether they hit you, or cause you to have an accident.

They'll still tailgate you and turn in front of you.
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Someone refresh my memory.
Daytime running lights were mandated for autos why?

Didn't it have something to do with the safety...Like being seen.

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Someone refresh my memory.
Daytime running lights were mandated for autos why?

Didn't it have something to do with the safety...Like being seen.

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I think it was so they could still fail to turn their headlights on when it's hard to see them.
Like the drivers in the fog and the "Turn lights on for safety" zones, where they still fail to turn them on.

My habit is to drive with my headlights on, regardless what vehicle I'm on, or in.
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Haze, Maura, for both of those lights (PIAA 600 and Hella FF50), which light did you use? The fog or driving application?
i use only the PIAA 600 HID lights, I use them for driving at night . They are not helpful for fog. I do not use the Hella FF50, though I have a set somewhere. They are incandescent. The use future vison \hids on my v strom.
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Hey - it's not me you are protecting, so go for those bright lights!

What I see when a stock vehicle is approaching:



Here's what I see when you are coming:

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Someone refresh my memory.
Daytime running lights were mandated for autos why?

Didn't it have something to do with the safety...Like being seen.

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I have them on my 2009 Yaris. The Drls are just a hair less bright than the headlites.

Unfortunately with the drls your parking lights ARENT on. Driving at night people get in their car start it up and walla the drls are on.

But NOT the parking lights!

Brain dead driver drives away thinking his lights are on. They arent. Just the "headlites". The rest of their car is not illuminated. You see a lot of that working 2nd shift.

Given the populations dead wish mentality on the highways Id rather ALL their lights were on.

Thats how "safety" things work.

But dont despair. The people who brought you "safety" features like drls, ABS brakes, and rearview video cameras have the ultimate solution up their sleeves.

They arent going to let YOU drive the car. It will be autonomous.

Think thats a good idea?

Well read the NY Times article test driving the Ford Fusion Hybrid. The car had radar front and rear collision avoidance and "lane holding" technology. Both devices malfunctioned on the test drive.

Go ahead google NY Times Ford Fusion test drive and read it for yourself.

Hillarious!
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I have 4300K HIDs in the ST and the ones in our cage are 5000K can't tell much difference between therm and neither look blue to my eye. Both lamp colors go through a bluish phase for a few seconds after first being switched on before fully warmed up.
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