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Old October 8th, 2008   #1
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Default Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

This question may bring some foaming at the mouth....kinda like asking "which oil". This last summer I has so many near misses, cages pulling out from the right, turning left infront, lane changes....."meep, meep...what, am I invisible"

I have considered a headlight modulator for several years. Comagination and Kisan are the two I'm aware of. There may be others.

So, I ask you......
  • Do you have one installed?
  • Model you picked and why?
  • "No way....wouldn't be caught dead with it on my bike" Why?
  • What other ways could be I be seen better?
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Old October 8th, 2008   #2
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

I had one on my ST1100 in the left side low beam - a Kisan PathBlazer, if I recall.

It was ok. But, I found myself turning it off most of the time and after I installed my HID low beam, I found I really didn't need the Headlight modulator anymore. I seemed to get noticed a lot better with the HID's without all the annoying flashes of headlights or comments from people in parking lots about my "flashing light".

They sure helped in the fast lane to get slow pokes out of the way, though. Cagers thought that I was a cop. Who am I to "enlighten" them and spoil a good thing?

I did use them a bunch in intersections, just to make sure I was visible.

Now that I have HID's in both headlights, I don't use a modulator.
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Old October 8th, 2008   #3
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

Hey Deano

I do not have a modulator installed and really do not have issues with BD Cages. I have however taken a few measures that work for me. I have PIAA 910's that I illuminate if I am approaching an intersection where there are other vehicles. I also run a set of Hella FF200 HID's which I rarely need use in daytime traffic but, when I feel uncomfortable with the amount of action going on around me I will use High Beams, PIAA's and the Hellas.

Another farkle I use frequently to let people know I am there is the Stebel air horn.

Only other thing I use on a regular basis is my knowledge that 70% of m/c accidents happen in the curb lane and 70% of fatalities happen in center lane. (Hurt Report). I know that the # 1 cause / excuse is "I did not see him". With the extra lights and my lack of inhibition to use them I do the best I can to eliminate that excuse.

Would I get a modulator? Perhaps. I have even thought of two modulators with one being on the Main ST lights and a second on the PIAA's. (Hoping for type alternating of beams). I am probably only one close call away from that.

Another feature some use is the high vis yellow garb. Personally I am not a fan as it is hard to envoke plausible denial with a while wearing that stuff.

Hope that helps

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Old October 8th, 2008   #4
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Nope!

I don't need to irritate other motorists and breach the integrity of my headlights. I have seen too many reports and one (not mine) first hand where the headlights go out. I have also seen motorists pull out in front of someone with a modulator thinking they got flash to go.

Some really like their headlight modulator. IMO, strong placebo effect.

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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

In the day of cell phones a fire truck with lights flashing and sirens wailing doesn't seem to affect anyone.The best defense is to have everyone in the world convey on two wheels.Cages are just orange barrels on the scenic highway of life.
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Old October 8th, 2008   #6
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

Riding for 3000 m with a goldwing with the modulator installed I counted more than 30 instances where people in cars either flashed their lights or did some finder signals to us.
I drive with bright and lowered beam and get comments from other biker that the light are extremely bright and they love it.
I decided against the modulator.
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Old October 9th, 2008   #7
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

Personally, I find headlight modulators irritating whether I'm in the car or on the bike. Do they make you more visible? Maybe, but if they ain't looking, they ain't gonna see you anyway. I wear hi-viz jackets all the time and they make me plenty visible without the irritation factor. But it's a personal choice.
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Old October 9th, 2008   #8
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

I had a modulator on my cruiser and loved it. I saw a lot of
instances where people visibly paused to see "what that was".

I've been on the ST for a year now and have decided that I'll
install it there as well. I've had 2 friends get creamed this year
(one fatally) and I've decided that if I'm going to ride, it's a
good idea.

Seriously, A guy pulled into traffic and hit my wife last week (she's
fine) and said he didn't see her car. Yeah, I know... It's hard to see
because it's a CAR and we camoflaged it by getting RED one :-)...

I try to assume that they never see me, but anything that up's the
odds is worth it. I'd rather have the cager's slightly annoyed (a
reaction I've never seen from the modulator) or puzzled than running
me down because they didn't notice.

Just my $.02
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Old October 10th, 2008   #9
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

Not my choice. I think it may be too easy for an oncoming vehicle to fixate on the modulation. This is how Police Cars with all their lights on get struck on the side of the road during a traffic stop. I do switch to high beams when approaching an intersection or anticipate the oncoming traffic attempting a pass.

I also think that the modulation can be misconstrued as invitation of "I see you, please go ahead."

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Old October 11th, 2008   #10
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Default Re: Headlight Modulator, Yes or No?

I've been using a modulator for over 20 years and won't ride without it.. It has saved me many times.. I use one on both the ST and the GL on high beams.
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