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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #11
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If it ever comes to it, I'll just convert one of my ST1300 to a trike!
Or, put a sidecar on it.
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Or, put a sidecar on it.
Great idea, one a trike, another with a sidecar!
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I don't like trikes or sidecar rigs. I like to LEAN. And yes, I know that some trikes can lean.

I still don't like them.
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Some sidecars can lean, too.
I lean, when I walk.
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I think you would be hard pressed to find a "leaning" sidecar today.
The two names that come to mind first are Flexit and EquaLean.
There was a ST110 with the Flexit kit on rooming about not all that long ago.

The Flexit was far and away the better of the two.
EquaLean was shade tree engineering with the shade is very short supply and nothing that could be called engineering applied.

I have some time/mileage on a sidecar.
My early days in the business we had two shops in town.
My first job was to transfer parts back and forth.
This required the services of the HondaVarna.
The HV was a old Husky chassis with a CB350 twin motor wedged in.
The 350 ran on one cylinder until about 25mph then you better have it pointed where you wanted to be because once the second cylinder kicked you were going to get there at lethal speed.
Brakes were something you should have applied back there.
They can be the textbook definition of serious pleasure interrupted by shear terror.
It was retired from street service before it killed me but found new life as the beer carrying vehicle for our desert exploration.
Wade and I flipped it at speed ending it's reign of terror permanently.
The shop owner had/still has two BMW sidecar rigs. 1958 models.
These were our Dallas and back transport devices for several years.
Still running and ridden/driven of a fairly regular basis.

Learning to ride/drive a sidecar can be challenging, particularly if you know how to ride a motorcycle.
Sidecars designed as sidecars work well.
Kitted sidecars are organ donator vehicles.


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I hear the Piaggio MP3 and the like handle extremely well.

The front wheels tilt around corners.
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Ancient technology, even BSA made one in the mid 60's.
Three wheel scooters are not new.
Most had two wheels in the rear, Honda Gyro, Yamaha made one also.
Scooter made for the Asian market where movement is at or slightly lower than walking speed.

Probably be better today with the cast aluminum front wheels in use.
Spoke wheels work great as long as directional torque is in the direction of travel.
Once a spoke wheel gets off it's gyroscopic "center" the hub will put enormous load on the spokes trying to right itself to center of rotation.

Scooters have no real "advantage" in this country because most states require them and their operators to carry full motorcycle license.

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Ancient technology, even BSA made one in the mid 60's.
BSA made one like this in the 60s? I think not...

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/07...-review-photos
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Actually BSA began building three wheeler in 1932.
two wheels up front drive wheel in the rear.
In 1966 BSA patented the single front wheel dual rear three wheeler.
Ariel 3
Sales failed BSA failed shortly thereafter.

3 Wheeler's are not new by any stretch.


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Did they make any with the front end geometry of the MP3?
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