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Old March 1st, 2016   #11
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Ran across this article about a class action lawsuit against Honda while reading my CR-V forum. Seems that Honda, in order to save costs, has been using a soy based insulation that rodents find yummy:

From: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/auto...awsuit-n504746
"Environmentally friendly car wiring with a soy-based coating is too tempting for rodents to resist, according to a federal class-action lawsuit that demands Honda pick up the tab for the damage caused by gnawing mice, rabbits and squirrels."

Wonder if the ST1300's wires are insulated with this same material?
I don't think it's just Honda, many manufacturers, and not just of motor vehicles, have been more or less forced to adopt PVC wiring insulation with plasticizers declared to be more environmentally friendly. Epoxidized soy bean oil is a popular replacement for the mostly banned phthalate plasticizers used for decades previously.

The additional trashed harnesses that end up in land fills and the air pollution that results from vehicle fires caused by stripped insulation hardly make these products as environmentally friendly as perhaps imagined.
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Yeah, this one drifted way the hell off topic...

The Cat sleeps inside. She was a stray kitten that just kind of made herself at home and now she does whatever the heck she wants. In winter she always slept inside, in summer she only came inside to eat. She was welcome to do whatever she liked.

Last summer she almost became a coyote turd. She fought her way free but both front shoulder blades were broken. Since then she sleeps inside. She does not like it, she literally cries by the door, but she is now under what Mrs. Redfish calls Coyote Curfew. She is allowed out during the day, but not at night.

BUT!!! The semi-useless creature does keep the rodent population in check. We have never seen a mouse inside this house, no rat nests in anything outside. We know they are around because she leaves us presents. The neighbors like her patrolling their horse barn for that reason.

So, my Honda, my current Yamahas, my vehicles, and my Monster Fergusson can have peanut butter flavored wires and still be safe.
We have a lot of reports around here, about Coyotes taking Cats and Dogs.
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I don't understand how cats that live outdoors can survive coyotes, and I've heard that there are coyotes in every county in the US. I can't see leaving any pets outside.
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I sometimes sprinkle rat poison around both inside and outside my garage and driveway, to discourage rodents. We have many squirrels around here.
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Ha I caught THREE mice last night in my echo modded mouse trap! One under the kitchen sink, one in the wife's closet, and one on the countertop. The trap I bought some time ago was useless but I've succeeded into making a death dealing machine!

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I don't think it's just Honda, many manufacturers, and not just of motor vehicles, have been more or less forced to adopt PVC wiring insulation with plasticizers declared to be more environmentally friendly.

Does this soy based insulation break down in landfills?... is this why it's supposed to be environmentally friendly?
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Does this soy based insulation break down in landfills?... is this why it's supposed to be environmentally friendly?
Perhaps recycled as soy milk?
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Does this soy based insulation break down in landfills?... is this why it's supposed to be environmentally friendly?

I don't know if it's that or just an attempt to reduce exposure to phthalate plasticizers.


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