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Old January 25th, 2013   #1
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Default ST13, FJR, Concourse 14 Comparo

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The FJR is cheapest, has the best engine, and has cc.

Hmmm...
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You really do need cc.

However, I am a fan of the V-4.
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Old January 25th, 2013   #3
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Default Re: ST13, FJR, Concourse 14 Comparo

And the 10-year old bike beats the newcomers in some ownership experience important areas - handling and comfort. I suspect too that the Honda might out do the others with respect to durability and reliability.

These are really important ownership issues and they are sometimes not and cannot be appreciated in the typical 500-1000 mile road test.
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Old January 26th, 2013   #4
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Yeah in the positive list for the Honda it listed best handling by far, longest range, and best comfort.

Those are pretty important things for a sport touring category motorcycle.
Maybe the most important.

Yet in the negative catagory "old technology" was cited.

Go figure.
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"Old Technology" means just what?
A Kawasaki with what in effect is a conversion to shaft drive and a chassis that certainly looks as if the swingarm pivot area is a bolt on and with a bracket change the entire ZX swingarm assemble would bolt right on converting the Concourse back to where it came from the ZX-14. It has a very "off the self" look to the entire package not necessarily a bad thing but not new technology either.
Their four bar link rear drive setup is out of necessity because of a seriously shortened up pivot area due to the 90 turn power output must go through to make it a shaft drive.
The FJR which was touted as the handling king grew 1.5 inches to gain some stability and smooth out the suspension. Now the shortest the ST with it's widely reported stability issues is declared the best handling.

Comparisons like ride reviews are best handled with the grain of salt theory.

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The FJR which was touted as the handling king grew 1.5 inches to gain some stability and smooth out the suspension. Now the shortest the ST with it's widely reported stability issues is declared the best handling.


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Default Re: ST13, FJR, Concourse 14 Comparo

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Another factor not to have been mantioned is value....or how it holds its value against the competition....An exfriend{not that it matters} who bought the sportier FJR lost a lot more in what he spent over the course of ownership verses the ST....In other words when it was time to move his FJR on to a new owner he took a beating.....where as the ST had retainde more of its worth....just check out NADA.com...one against another.....
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Default Re: ST13, FJR, Concourse 14 Comparo

It is rare, IMHO, for a bunch of motorcycle journo's to have fully objective opinions. They write more 'exciting' prose in order to sell their publications and they are generally over-concerned with quoted horsepower, speed and handling. It looks to me that the ST1300 stacked up pretty well against the 'sexy' new bikes. The ST is a fully designed, from the ground up, sports tourer that has stood the test of time. Not sure that the others really are in that league.
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I understand what they're saying about the styling, especially about the gauges. Honda could just update that, add some HP and they'd be fine.

IMHO, that guy needs a haircut
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Thanks, Echo. Never would have seen this if you hadn't posted. Of course, they were just stating what we all already knew.
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