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Old November 19th, 2013   #21
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Hmm that IBA site is pretty wordy. I did read it and I remember reading it years ago.

If you gave me a test about what's in it I would get like a 40 on it! Its just too hard for me to remember everything!

I do pretty much know 90% of everything you need to know to ride a motorcycle!
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Old November 19th, 2013   #22
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I like to number my receipts and have that number correspond to an entry on my fuel log.

I like to do my log entry at each stop, not at the end of a ride.

I like to tether my log to my trunk so I don't lose it.

I start a timer when I stop to urge me to hurry.

Verify this as it's from memory and the rules may have changed since I last did an IBA ride:

You need two witnesses at start and finish ithey are not officials (I.e., not police, fireman, etc.).

If they are police, fireman, etc., 1 witness for start and finish is ok.

Get date and time and city/town names on receipts. If written, get name and phone number of teller/attendant.

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You only need two at the start and finish for the "extreme" certifications.
You also must have completed and have certification of a SS1000 before you can attempt any of the extreme rides.

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Old November 19th, 2013   #24
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The rules are "wordy" for a reason.
Very specific (wordy) rules eliminate problems at the end of the day.
If you read, and understand, the rules you will not have problems when certification time comes.

As I said don't over think it, it takes the fun out of it.
It is straightforward.
Document everything with a signature at the start, receipts along the way, signature at the end.


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Old November 19th, 2013   #25
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Excellent info, guys. It may be obvious , but planning a route that avoids having to obtain extra receipts at turn points will save you time. A straight line of 1000 miles, or a 500 mile destination and return (one turn receipt) will save time, and let you focus on only getting the gas receipts.

Carrying fuel would not be a good idea in my view. I did my first on a bike with a 200 mile range. That is 5 stops including the end stop. Unless you are a very seasoned competitor, you will likely need these 5 stops to stretch your legs and get the blood flowing to your butt. Concentrate on making 5-6 gas stops as efficient as possible. Right now, start timing your gas stops , try getting them below 10 minutes. Then in your 24 hours, allowing for one hours worth of gas stops, you still have lots of time.

Another problem with 'going as fast as you like' is that you consume gas too fast, and can throw off all your careful gas calculations, or risk running out of gas. Which I did on my first SS1000
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The key is to limit your stopped time, and make good use of it. I stopped every 125 miles, got off the bike, gassed up or ate something, got right back on, and took off. Getting off the bike and walking around are key issues, it gets the blood flowing back into you legs.
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I like to slow down the 45 or so and stand on the pegs. Helps you keeping going in more comfort.
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I don't slow down but, I do sometimes stand up to stretch out my legs.

I also hang them in the breeze while sitting (I must be going at least 70 mph or they drag a bit).

I'll also alternate sitting with one butt cheek hanging off the seat for about 15 minutes or so, first one side and then the other.

I like to do isometric exercises by pushing inward on the handlebars with my hands for a count of about 20. I do about 5 reps like that about once an hour.

Another good isometric exercise for your arms is to alternate putting one hand out in the breeze and moving it forward (against the wind) and back for a count of 20 reps. You must be going at least 70 mph to have enough resistance to work. This is where a throttle lock or cruise control is needed.

These isometric exercises are also good at pushing away mental fatigue.

Rolling your shoulders over and over also is a good thing to do every once in a while.

And do all this BEFORE your body starts hurting. By then, it's really too late.

Get creative.

Oh, and take Advil (or other pain med) before you start out and sometime in the middle of the ride.
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One thing that you need to consider is the time factor.
Put it into numbers.
At 60MPH you are covering 1 mile every minute.
Four stops will cover the distance if you can you plot a route that gets you a fuel stop every 250 miles. Two things here, can you plot this route to get you 250 on each stop, more important can you go 250 without stopping?

I prefer a 200 mile fuel stop schedule.
At 200 miles you are going 3:33 between stops.
Can you go three and a half hours without putting a foot down?
Can you fuel the bike and get yourself ready to go in 10 minutes?
At ten minutes you have removed 50 minutes from your overall time.
Now you only have 23 hours and 10 minutes to get the thousand in.
At 23:10 you now must keep a total moving average speed of 45MPH to cover 1042 miles. At a 3% odometer error you need 1030 miles to get the 1000 requirement. Adjust that number to your particular odometer error but I think you will find most will agree 1030 miles is a safe number to insure you get the full 1000. Short on miles all you accomplished was using up fuel. Close enough does not get it here. Plot you route accordingly and have someone here run it through Streets & Trips, the defacto standard for mileage used by the IBA.

A 45 MPH overall average does not sound fast but doing it for 23 hours is the key. If you are thinking of eating you must up the pace. If you are thinking of a rest period you must up the pace. You get the idea, stopping even briefly kills you overall moving average.
At a constant speed of 70MPH stopping for 10 minutes translates to a effective speed of 58.3MPH.

30MPH = .5 mile per Min.
35MPH = .583
40MPH = .667
45MPH = .750
50MPH = .833
55MPH = .917
60MPH = 1.00
65MPH = 1.083
70MPH = 1.166
75MPH = 1.250

You do not need much higher than this because the IBA will not certify anything that is run at speeds above the posted limits.

You can use this to calculate stop times such as:
A 60 MPH constant speed with a 5 minute stop reduces the effective speed to 55MPH.
A 10 minute stop reduces it to 50MPH.
As you can see stopping kills your speed.
Constant forward movement is the key.


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Old November 21st, 2013   #30
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...or look at it this way.

When I bought my ST13 in Houston TX I rode it home to Philly in two days. Thats 1500 miles +. They were two 14 hour days. I went 85 mph indicated the whole way.

So that left me 10 hours to ride less than 250 miles if I wanted to do a 1000SS. Heck you could get a hotel and sleep for 5 hours. You could do 250 miles in five hours standing on your head. Shoot you could even get a hooker.
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