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Old October 31st, 2014   #1
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Good evening.
I have joined the forum despite not being an owner of the Pan European.
I need to be persuaded that it is the right machine for me!
I currently ride a Gold Wing GL1500 but find it a heavy bike when riding at slow speeds and also find it cumbersome through stationary traffic.
So I am wondering whether there are others here who have jumped ship for similar reasons and if they have not regretted their decision?
I am UK based, just to let you know.

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Old October 31st, 2014   #2
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I had a 2008 kawasaki concours, great bike, but my hands and fingers went numb after a little over a hour straight riding. So I traded a guy who paid me $1000.00 and the fjr for my 2008 concours. Well good bike, but my hands and fingers went numb after 45 minutes so that was no good. So I did some research and I came up with four bikes. One was a goldwing, but I didn't want the weight. Next was a bmw k1200lt. Same thing did not want the weight. Then a bmw k1600 lt or gt. Could not afford unless I worked the street corner around midnight. Last was the honda st1300 which Is not that heavy and handles great. So I rode all four bikes for one full hour test rides and made my decision, the honda st1300. So now I had to find one, which I did with low mileage and in great shape. No more hands and fingers going numb. I thing with the concours, and fjr the high frequency vibes of the inline four made my hands, fingers go numb. The honda I can ride all day and no problems. I love this bike. Just don't tell my wife. lol
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Old November 1st, 2014   #3
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Well go out and get yourself a ride on one. Like answer a c list ad and show up for a test ride. Here are some points about the ST13 that come to mind immediately. Dealerships will usually sanction a test ride of a used machine also.

1) Pretty good slow speed handling. I have to believe its an improvement over the Gwing.

2) Engine sounds like the Jetsons car in the cartoon. That alone is worth it!

Yeah that's as far as I need to go!
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Old November 1st, 2014   #4
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I am a new owner of a st1300 but have only logged a little over 1000 miles on it. Some people complain about the seat but my first ride on it was 400 miles and it was fine. May get a super nice seat someday but stock is fine. I was looking at the fjr but went for the Honda because I am a loyal Honda rider. Use the other riders input to help you decide because they have more experience. I am not trying to say the other bikes are not as good but there is a reason Honda has such a good reputation. Their reliability and smoothness of their motors is incredible. this motorcycle is very smooth,sounds cool and so far I think it handles well although I have not ridden through any intense twisties --yet.. This is just my little tidbit of input. Its a Honda.
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Hi Barry StickyG. I'm up in Bedfordshire and have had a Pan since 2005. The ST1300 is substantially lighter than the Wing, and is nimble through traffic and twisties - ridden well, the plastic rocket boys will have a surprisingly hard time keeping up and of course, when they stop for fuel, you still have fuel for another 150 miles! With the panniers and top box it has something like 120 litres of luggage space. You will be able to get a test ride on one from any decent Honda dealer. I had a 3 hour test ride before I bought mine. I have ridden many thousands of miles throughout Europe on mine. But you do need to find out if you and the Pan physically fit together.
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I have only been an ST owner for 3 weeks now. So far so good. The most I have ridden it is about an hour, but I have had no comfort issues. Good luck.
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1. The ST is heavy to move around in the shop.
2. and top heavy at slow speeds
3. and engine heat is evident for sure above 75*
4. and a wonderful V4, flat torque curve, great stock sound
5. and rock solid handling even in the rough
6. and great brakes for a heavy beast
5. and last 0-100 < 9 seconds


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Old November 3rd, 2014   #8
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Hi Barry

ref SinNH 's comments:
"1. The ST is heavy to move around in the shop.
2. and top heavy at slow speeds
3. and engine heat is evident for sure above 75*"

The Pan is nowhere near as heavy as your Goldwing.
It is light on its feet the instant you get it moving and I can whip it though stationary traffic with ease. If the mirrors go through, so does the rest of the bike, so it's easy to judge gaps when filtering. My bike is quite high profile and traffic tends to move out of my way anyway. There is zero problem with engine heat here in the UK!

Incidentally how tall are you and what do you weigh?

I'm 5'8" and 11 stone 10 lbs, and the Pan fits me like a glove, stock seat on its lowest setting.
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Old November 3rd, 2014   #9
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Hello all

Thank you for the welcome and your input.

I am waiting for a test ride at my local Honda dealer.

Would you believe they had 5 in stock up til last week. When I went in enquiring about a test ride they'd sold all of them so I have to wait for another to come in to stock.

There was a lovely brand new one but obviously not for test riding!

Dick, I'm the same height and weight as you almost exactly so that's promising.

I'll be back here once I've had that ride.

for now.

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& the best part about going from a Wing to the ST is there's no recall on the SMC!




Oh and welcome to the site too.
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