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Old December 3rd, 2016   #21
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Default Re: Is Windows 10 ready for Prime Time?

I saw a Windows 7 Pro 32 bit version today.
Will that run on a 64 bit processor?
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Old December 4th, 2016   #22
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Yes. 32 will run on everything. 64 bit will only run on 64 bit processors.

If you can, go for 64 bit. Use of resources and amount of resources it can use is better.
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Yes. 32 will run on everything. 64 bit will only run on 64 bit processors.

If you can, go for 64 bit. Use of resources and amount of resources it can use is better.
Even if the price is FREE?
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Do whatever works for you. I only run 64-bit, Pro versions...but that's because I'm a computer nut, and I run a Windows domain everything needs to link to.

32 bit will work fine. I (and a lot of other folks) would rather run 64-bit. Run whatever you get your hands on.

Seems to me I was giving away 64-bit Pro versions of Win7, which could be upgraded to 10...and no one was interested. Hmmmm....
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Was just reading about the dismantling of the Avalanche Cyber Crime Ring and recommended related virus scanners. My Win 10 box is a very recent acquisition and am still setting up and wasn't very concerned by "Avalanche".

Still ran one of the "Avalanche" specific scanners overnight....and it did spot a Trojan!

Went and unplugged my old XP Box from the router......
The future of AV isn't what we have right now. It's changing, and for the better.

Right now, all (almost all?) AV software downloads a signature file or signature database, and compares that file against whatever might be stored, or running, on your system. While this has worked fairly well for quite a while, the number and variations of virusii out there are getting unwieldy to the point of making a signature file almost useless. The best of them do fairly well, but will still drag your system to a crawl while they're doing their thing.

The future is more the heuristic approach. This allows the AV software to monitor the system for anomalies, and approach each individually, without a signature file. This is also the only way to truly stop a zero-day attack. Since it will take the AV companies a couple days (at minimum) to a week, or even more, to update their signature files, by the time you get the new information, you may be infected.

It may take a while, but it's coming. I hope it comes quickly.

For me, in the last 10-12 years or so, none of my system have been infected once that I know of. And, I tend to go to some shady websites. I don't click on things in e-mail I'm not expecting, and those I do get that seem to come from people I know I can tell whether or not they wrote them. If it's not them, delete.

I'm now using Avast business version on my systems, and manage some of my friends systems using my license. I can mark sites as untrusted, mark certain sites as trusted when I know they're OK, modify firewall rules, force the systems to pull a new configuration, updated software, new signature files, etc. There's a lot I can do, and it's virtually invisible to them. I also get reports of what's happening on their systems, and any virus they might come across. It helps stop some of the traffic you might see from the silly add-ons that programs try and trick you into installing.

Just for the heck of it, I ran the ESET on-line scanner version. It said it found 2, then locked up with no further information...
So I ran the Microsoft one...it found a program I already knew I had, which is a hack program, but not a hacked program, and not a threat...
For grins, I ran the F-secure program...on the positive side, the database download was pretty quick and the interface looks nice...didn't even find my little program, though.
That's where I stopped.
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Do whatever works for you. I only run 64-bit, Pro versions...but that's because I'm a computer nut, and I run a Windows domain everything needs to link to.

32 bit will work fine. I (and a lot of other folks) would rather run 64-bit. Run whatever you get your hands on.

Seems to me I was giving away 64-bit Pro versions of Win7, which could be upgraded to 10...and no one was interested. Hmmmm....
I was interested but I was between computers and finally got a new laptop, after you gave away your Win 7.
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I just updated Kaspersky Internet Security on a friend's laptop, as well as installing 2013 Office.

I almost forgot how much distaste that I have for Win 8.1.

Will she lose anything, by upgrading to Windows 10?
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....The future is more the heuristic approach.....
Interesting. Thx.

Am only running the free version of Avast on Win 10. I read that on the more advanced version the heuristic analysis is already built in and sensitivity can be adjusted to limit false-positives?
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I just updated Kaspersky Internet Security on a friend's laptop, as well as installing 2013 Office.

I almost forgot how much distaste that I have for Win 8.1.

Will she lose anything, by upgrading to Windows 10?
If you do an in-place upgrade, then everything should transfer right into the new OS. You'll probably have a bunch of updating to do afterwards, so just be ready for that. Most will auto-magically try to update themselves, so a lot of the hunting is off your shoulders - you just have to wait.

You can only in-place upgrade like versions, though (home to home, 32 bit to 32 bit, etc).
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Interesting. Thx.

Am only running the free version of Avast on Win 10. I read that on the more advanced version the heuristic analysis is already built in and sensitivity can be adjusted to limit false-positives?
Sort of, but it's not really reliable yet. Almost all of them claim to use heuristics, but they all still require the most current version of their database to be anything close to good. If the heuristics truly worked, the database would be moot.

Sure, and yes, there are some adjustments - but they're more just in case you're getting a lot of false positives, you can turn it down. They can't truly protect you in their current form. It's a bummer, really. I'd prefer the new way of doing things, but that's something that's definitely NOT ready for prime time.

I ran the free version of Avast for a long time, and they had a limited time offer to a free business license, so I jumped on it. It's still free, but it's a whole different level. There are a couple things locked out, but they're not something I care too much about, so I don't worry.

As an FYI, Windows Defender is also an AV program. So I actually use them both, all the time.
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I used to get a warning about a Toshiba game, reporting that it was a PUP but I just ignored it. It was doing no harm that I was aware of, so I just skipped past it.
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