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Old August 8th, 2011   #11
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I stripped many a Philips head on my old CB550F and replaced the lot with Allen heads years ago. My Renault car and Landrover both have extensive use of Torx and (touch wood) I have yet to strip a Torx head. Most tool socket kits over here now come with a range of Torx bits as standard.
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Old August 8th, 2011   #12
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I don't see the issue with Torx. Unlike Philips head screws, they never slip, and (unless you're really ham-handed) you'll never strip out the head.

I think the problem is manufacturers sometimes use philips screws where a hex head was called for.

Im thinking my neighbors 87 (?) Goldwings water/oil pump.

Diabolical.

Torx tools are just something else to have to buy/not have/lose when you need them.

Kind of like the tool for the "theft proof" lug nuts! Get a flat tire on a rainy/below zero/bad part of town night and the bugger is NOWHERE to be found. They go from theft proof to unremovable in the blink of an eye.

Just too funny!
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Old August 9th, 2011   #13
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Torx tools are just something else to have to buy/not have/lose when you need them.
But the same could be said of allen wrenches, or even screwdrivers.
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Old August 9th, 2011   #14
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My BMW F650 came with allen wrench shaped torx keys. They were tens kinds of hell to use and you couldnt do some tasks without them.

Later I bought a screwdriver torx driver and it was better.

Of course I already had the other things you need to do maintenance.

When they make something really new Im all for it.

Now I see torx replacing heavy bolts that used to be hex shaped. Silly.

AND now if that wasnt enough there are FEMALE torx tools you have to buy for MALE torx fasteners.

Well I hope it makes someone happy.
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Old August 9th, 2011   #15
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On topic - Everything I have from CruzTools has worked well when used as intended.
(insert favorite "you used that tool to do what" story here).
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Has anyone ever found a stubby JIS #2 screwdriver? I consider a stubby a key part of any tool set, but have never found one with a JIS tip.
"Found" as in "in stock"? No, but Vessel pn.920P2*25 is a 25mm-long JIS #2 screwdriver. It's listed in the catalog of the US distributor, JDV Products in NJ (www.vesseltools.com), so maybe they can get it. Looks like Vessel also make a 400mm "extra-long" version of the P2 Megadora (same style as the one I linked to earlier, as well as this stubby).

As I've said before, one reason why Honda's "Phillips" screws often strip out is because they aren't actually Phillips screws...

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And, if your screwdriver is pointed, it's not a Phillips. Phillips are round on the end.

I use mostly square drive fasteners, where I can.
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As I've said before, one reason why Honda's "Phillips" screws often strip out is because they aren't actually Phillips screws...

Ciao,
Hmm. I remember fixing my friends Goldwing where assemblies were fastened with these "philips" screws. They were 20 years old, corroded, and sure enough the screws stripped when we tried to disassemble them. Had to drill the heads of with a hand held drill. Wouldnt have happened with hex fasteners.

Maybe it wouldnt have happened if we knew our philips bits werent the right ones...
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Hmm. I remember fixing my friends Goldwing where assemblies were fastened with these "philips" screws. They were 20 years old, corroded, and sure enough the screws stripped when we tried to disassemble them. Had to drill the heads of with a hand held drill. Wouldnt have happened with hex fasteners.

Maybe it wouldnt have happened if we knew our philips bits werent the right ones...
Or if you had an impact screwdriver like this one

,http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130430196471?hlp=false

It was the only way to work on my new Suzuki T250 Hustler in 1970.
I think it was the first thing I ever purchased on a credit card and it cost about $19, a lot of money in those days.
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... an impact screwdriver ...
VERY useful tool!
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