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View Poll Results: Do you replace rear brake pads with the wheel on or off?
Wheel on - Easy to do 12 75.00%
Wheel off - Allows caliper to be cleaned 4 25.00%
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Old September 16th, 2014   #11
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My opinion is . . . the best job is done with the wheel off

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Old October 14th, 2017   #12
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No wheel off. Only one bolt need to be removed-pin.It located on the top of caliper and covered by black gum cover. Remove this cover ,push calipers in and unscrew pin. Remove a pin and replace you pads. I changed today for my two Honda rear pads. Honda ST1300 and Honda VT1300CS. Same system and all job take maximum 10 minutes.
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Did you get in there with a brush and clean off any dust and muck around the boots?
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One of my observations about any motor vehicle is that brakes and steering are mandatory, everything else is an option. Because of that rule I replace the pads when I change the tire whether they need it or not. I use some scotch-brite to scuff the rotors and measure them. The ST is hard on rear brakes and is worth watching closely. Not only cleaning pistons 1st (good advice guys) and using cleaner I also change the brake fluid after, so far I haven't had or heard a good argument that makes being anal about brakes that makes sense considering their importance. (Rather get carried away in the beginning than wish I had when I am grabbing the brakes to keep from giving a cager an enema.)
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One of my observations about any motor vehicle is that brakes and steering are mandatory, everything else is an option.)
In 1979 when I started work as a car mechanic the last thing my boss let me do was brakes and front and work until I prove myself on everything else.

Later on I went on to work on nuclear steam turbines and then NASA flight hardware. But that was after I worked on my wife's breaks! they were more important.
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Did you get in there with a brush and clean off any dust and muck around the boots?
Installing new pads on the ST without ensuring the pistons are clean before pushing them back in is a really bad thing to do . . .

Even type of caliper with " boots " covering completely the piston still need cleaning and inspection before pushing the piston back in .

The ST Calipers do not have that type of " boots " . So not cleaning the pistons before pushing them back in not an option .

Not doing so could do some damage to the dust seal and eventually on the oil seal itself .

So . . . Why taking a chance with this ?

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Did you get in there with a brush and clean off any dust and muck around the boots?
Yes and I put lubricant on the back side of new pads.
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Honda removed the "boots" from the calipers in or about 1980.
The boots could and would collect moisture in amounts enough to pit the pistons and that in turn would damage the piston seals.

Both my 76 model Wings have the boots covering the pistons and two smaller boots covering the pad pins.
This setup was used on all the inline fours until the 80 model when Honda removed them.
The piston remained the same, the groove to hold the boot, and remained the same until Honda went to the vented rotors requiring new caliper bodies.
The boots never came back.
Pistons are no longer produced nor available.
The boots are available and freshly produced for some reason.

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