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Old July 10th, 2014   #11
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Recently fitted the 4's on the GSX1250, my take:

Noticeably heavy steering at low speed.
Moderately heavy steering to initiate lean at open road speed.
Vague, unpredictable feeling at mid lean at open road speed.
Less grip in the rear at deep lean coming off the apex under significant throttle.

Makes me glad this bike is for sale... I won't be fitting them to the RT.
Curious to know what the 4's replaced.
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Old July 10th, 2014   #12
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eh, they replaced the 3's. ;-)

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Old July 10th, 2014   #13
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Curious to know what the 4's replaced.
Previous 2 sets were PR3's, got 8500 miles from both before replacing due to heavy scalloping.
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Old July 10th, 2014   #14
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(Fortunately I can't give a snow report, at least yet.) .
Flippin' 'ek, An ST is a mighty chunk of bike to risk with snow, I'd be on a trailey type bike with big knobbly tires for that...
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A good friend was killed riding his ST1300 on snow. He slid under the wheels of a truck in the lane next to him, and that was that.
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First time I've heard anyone describe the PR3s as slow steering. I find them quicker and more confidence inspiring than the Dunlops or Bridgestones I've used and on par with the original Avon Storms. (admittedly haven't tried the 023s). Most published reviews also refer to them as nimble. A recent review of the PR4s in Rider magazine described them as quicker steering still to the PR3s.

Having said that, tire preference is a very individual thing and one can't necessarily assume that another person's impressions will be the same as your own. Even at the MotoGP level there are significant differences in preferences for tire type, compound, and at one time brand.
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Flippin' 'ek, An ST is a mighty chunk of bike to risk with snow, I'd be on a trailey type bike with big knobbly tires for that...
I've been caught by surprise by unpredicted snow a couple times in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, as well as mountain passes in the western states. Hope it doesn't happen again. But 023's handled it quite nicely. (Never was sure if you give snow plow operators the wave or not.)
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No snarkiness from me, no not ever...

I just got back from a wonderful tour of Colorado and New Mexico on my PR4s.

3600 miles on the trip, 4K on the tires since new.

I have some complaints.

1. They were not free.
2. They will wear out.
3. The rear is more willing to follow rain grooves and pavement irregularities than the PR3 or the PR2.

Other than that, I was very impressed.
They ran 80+ for over 4 hours in 96-100 degree temps in Texas and cornered solidly in 48 degree rain at 11,000 feet elevation. They stayed solid in a rain/hailstorm on unfamiliar mountain roads and gave me confidence to push on when I should have sought shelter.
I will buy them again and will recommend them to my friends.

And you guys are my friends right?
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You're back already?

Sheesh, that doesn't seem long enough for that long of a trip.

Where's the trip report? Huh, huh?

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i have about 1000 miles on my PR4 rear tire. i am no expert, but i really like it. i thought it handles the twisties great. seemed very solid & secure even in the rain. it feels much better than my metzler.
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